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Bring it on...

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Seems our overpaid union bosses in the public sector are trying to justify their obscene wages by calling for a general strike in the coming months.

Picture courtesy of Taxpayers Alliance http://www.taxpayersalliance.com/home/2011/09/taxpayers-alliance-reveals-union-fat-cats.html
BBC.
Britain is facing the threat of mass walkouts by public sector workers after the biggest unions announced strike ballots over pensions.
Unison, Unite, the GMB and the Fire Brigades' Union will consult members about co-ordinated industrial action starting in November.
Unison's leader Dave Prentis told the TUC's annual conference the strikes would involve the "fight of our lives".
But the government said widespread action would leave the public "angry".
Ministers are seeking increases in pension contributions from next April, while millions of workers continue to face a pay freeze.
The coalition argues that rises in payments are fair and will make schemes sustainable despite an ageing population.
If it goes anything like the last lot, I wonder if anyone other than the mums of schoolkids will actually notice. Sure there might be problems if the fire brigade strike and the RMT have shown a tendency to strike over trivia (The EDL, yet not the people who support bombing tubes MAC) but overall other than inconveniencing the general public for whom they rely on for support, I rather think they will be digging their own graves. Their members will lose money, lose public support and in the end will have to bend to simple economics in that the country simply cannot afford the largesse of their current pension schemes. Still I'm sure that the union leaders themselves won't mind a bit, not as if they are going to lose out particularly, their attitude over all seems to be one of "Never mind the results, if I'm still in charge, Then everything went well" a similar attitude to many WW1 generals who felt any amount of deaths to gain a few yards of territory was justifiable so long as it wasn't their deaths.
The public will suffer (perhaps) the ordinary union member will suffer (definitely)and I'm pretty sure that if anyone dies due to the fire brigade being on strike that the headlines will reflect the anger.
Quite frankly other than the government giving up and increasing our taxes (thus committing electoral suicide) I cannot see any way for the public service unions to win this.
I suspect the ordinary members know this too, though sadly they aren't the ones who make the decisions, just the idiots on the so called left who think no price is too high to pay to have a go at a Tory government.
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The moral bankruptcy of the left

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The depths to which the left sinks when dealing with anything it doesn't understand or fears can never be underestimated.




Here we have an utter slimeball UAF mong describing an attack on a young female who had fallen off a coach carrying EDL patriots that had been attacked and clearly gloating about the violence and thuggery on display.



The attack on the coach.


The attack on the woman who had her jaw fractured but is now out of hospital.

The police? Well they arrested everyone on the coach (though not the young woman)
Fortunately the video shows despite some ludicrous claims by various Leftist and Muslim groups that the EDL had provoked the attack just exactly who the barbarians in our society are, and they aren't the EDL. You can imagine the headlines if the EDL attacked a coach of Islamists, the front page wouldn't be big enough.

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Interfering with a democratic right

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It's a democratic right to protest in this country as it's a democratic right to counterprotest. It's not however a democratic right to march as the idiots in the UAF found out when they called on the home secretary to ban the EDL march in Tower Hamlets and subsequently found their march banned as well. However the anti-democratic antics of the left have gone much further and their fantasy world where everyone "must" oppose the "knuckle dragging fascist/racist EDL" (their view, no-one else's) in that they have managed to secure funding and other aid from trade unions despite the fact this isn't an employment issue.
The Londonist.
Opposition groups including Unite Against Fascism are organising a counter demonstration Their website reported that the RMT had threatened to stop work on health and safety grounds if a planned muster at Liverpool Street station went ahead, which has to be one of the few occasions when Londoners might actually support a walkout. They are also calling on two Euston pubs to stop EDL members using their premises as meeting points.
I very much doubt other than in the fantasy world that much of the left inhabits that any Londoners would welcome the communist lead RMT calling a strike or a walkout on a busy Saturday in London, it really shows how much out of touch they are from reality to even express such views. I can't help wondering if the RMT remember just who set off the tube bombs and yet they have their leadership trying to stop those who seek a solution to the problem as opposed to just appeasing the problem. As it is, the EDL are not using Liverpool Street (it doesn't seem to have occurred to the imbecile left that the EDL will be coming from all over the place in all directions), nor are they using pubs in Euston, still it's typical of the left to try and deny struggling pub owners the right to make money hand over fist in these hard times.
The far-right group originally intended to march through the London boroughs of Tower Hamlets, Waltham Forest, Newham, Islington and Hackney but a 30-day ban was imposed after an appeal from the Metropolitan Police over public order concerns.
No they didn't that route is sheer guesswork from you, simply setting out the areas in which the ban is in force.
The decision to ban the march has been criticised by freedom of speech campaigners – Liberty’s legal director James Welch said:
‘The police and home secretary must realise how serious it is to ban marches in a free country.’
The Met points out that it wasn’t an easy decision to make:
‘We have not sought this power since 1981 – which shows how we do not take this lightly. As far as Saturday is concerned, both parties have requested a static demonstration and we will be negotiating with them suitable locations with the aim of minimising disorder.’
Yet the EDL would not have been the ones causing the trouble, it's the opposition to the EDL who cause the trouble by stirring up hatred and suspicion within the communities where the EDL intend to march. Police officers have admitted that the EDL are disciplined and obey instructions unlike the UAF and other groups who oppose the EDL and only come for a fight.
I'll leave the final word to the EDL though...
‘Placing a ban on the EDL march gives out completely the wrong message. It suggests that it is the EDL, and not the extremism that we demonstrate about, which needs to be kept in check.’
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Being careful about what you ask for

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The EDL were planning a march in Tower Hamlets which is their democratic right to do, various other groups were planning on opposing the march which is also their right to do. That those who oppose such marches by the EDL tend to be violent thugs and that they have been leafleting Tower Hamlets in attempts to stir up the local populace into a riot is also known. The recent riots and the actions of Islamic extremists in Tower Hamlets has provided the far left who see violence as the only form of legitimate protest with a heady brew in which to promulgate their lies, slander and scare stories. There were calls for a ban on the EDL march from the local council and from other groups and eventually the Home Secretary at the urging of the police stepped in to ban the EDL march, which should have been good news for the idiot socialists and extreme Islamists within and without Tower Hamlets.
Except the Home Secretary went further and banned all marches for a month in Tower Hamlets including those who oppose the EDL, cue immediate hypocritical denouncements by the left who wanted to ban an EDL march yet cannot see why their own marches should be banned as well. A classic case of the biter bit...
Socialist Worker.
We have a right to march against the EDL racists
In an unprecedented step, Scotland Yard has applied to the home secretary to ban all marches in five London boroughs for 30 days starting from 2 September.
This means that the English Defence League march in Tower Hamlets, east London, set for 3 September will be banned. But the blanket ban will also cover the counter-demonstration organised by Unite against Fascism and United East End.
The English Defence League still plan to come to Tower Hamlets to hold a static protest.
Already anti-racist activists in Tower Hamlets have put out calls for the counter-demonstration to go ahead. Socialist Worker backs all those who want to stand up to the racists. We call on everyone to come to Tower Hamlets to show that the racist EDL is not welcome.
Yes, the hypocrites believe that only they have the right to march, but it goes further, their actions have also prevented the lefts 75th anniversary of the "Battle of cable Street" march and all because they were incapable of acting like adults and were calling for violence and protest against another march.
They are only just coming to terms that if you call to take away the democratic rights of one group, it also takes away your democratic rights too.
Epic Fail socialists, Epic Fail.
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The idiot that is Nick Lowles

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Nick Lowles is an anti-extremist campaigner and writes for Searchlight Magazine he also tweets a lot too. Searchlight's "mandate" as they put it is to campaign Against Racism and Fascism as part of the Hope not Hate campaign. Essentially what they do is only campaign against the BNP and the EDL whilst ignoring real racism or fascism exhibited by anyone other than white people. In other words it's a typical lefty/socialist site full of blinkered Trots and their fellow travellers, you know the type, the ones who believe "only white people can be racist."
Normally I don't give them the time of day, but in their continuing attempts to somehow link the EDL to the Norway massacre, I felt this article couldn't go unanswered.
Linky.
Anders Behring Breivik was in contact with the English Defence League, supported its aims and was involved in the Norwegian Defence League, Searchlight can reveal.
Only months before he went on his murderous killing spree he exchanged numerous messages with EDL supporters using his internet pseudonym Sigurd Jorsalfare, after the 12th century King of Norway who led one of the Crusades.
In one message on the EDL forum, dated 9 March 2011, he wrote:
Now clearly the EDL would have to be clairvoyant to somehow know that a) Sigurd Jorsalfare was Anders Behring Breivik and b) that somehow he was going to kill all those people before 22 July 2011. But why let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory.
"Hello. To you all good English men and women, just wanted to say that you're a blessing to all in Europe, in these dark times all of Europe are looking to you in surch [sic] of inspiration, courage and even hope that we might turn this evil trend with islamisation all across our continent. Well, just wanted to say keep up the good work it's good to see others that care about their country and heritage. All the best to you all Sigurd".
Clear signs of being an utter nutter there, I've said worse here about Islam and its adherents and no, oddly enough I don't feel any urges to go and kill the youth wing of the Labour Party.
In another posting he attacked Britain's multicultural society and expressed his interested in joining an EDL demonstration:
"i've seen with my own eyes what has happened to england, i was in bradford some years ago, me and a friend walked down to the football stadium of bradford, real Cnice' neighborhood, same thing in the suburbs of london. well thinking about taking a little trip over the sea and join you in a demo. would be nice with a norwegian flag alongside with union jack or the english flag, that is if a norwegian would be welcome offcourse?"
Again as this was asked before 22 July 2011 he would have been made welcome had he turned up (he didn't) with a Norwegian flag as at an EDL demo a lot of flags of different nations are flown from their supporters from all over the world.

Breivik was told by EDL supporters that he would be most welcome, to which he replied: "I hoped so:) it's our common struggle against the islamofacists."
EDL supporters were keen to have his support. 'Concerned' replied: 'Bravo sigurd admire your views and courage. no surrender and welcome."
Again, why would he not be made welcome on an EDL forum, can anyone see any reason why someone calling themselves  Sigurd Jorsalfare would not be welcome? No insults, no threats, just an intro and a indication he'd like to come to an EDL demo.
Among the EDL supporters in dialogue with Breivik was someone who uses the name "ujac". He is Darren Jackson, the Preston EDL Facebook administrator and the organiser of Casuals United, a group of football hooligans who threw their lot in with the EDL soon after it was formed. Jackson has extensive links with the Norwegian Defence League, including a friendship with Lena Andreassen, the group's organiser.
Ok, trust me on this, ujac is not  Darren Jackson though he does know him, nor was Breivik ever a member of the NDL or even knew of its existence, in his manifesto he mentioned trying to set up an NDL some 6 months after it had formed anyway.
In his exchange with "ujac" and others, Breivik boasted of his support for the NDL. Asked if he was active in the NDL, Breivik replied:
"I was but, the site has been put down now. There was to be a demo in Oslo on the 26 of February but after the police security service put us on the 'danger-list' the internet site was sadly shut down."
 No it wasn't the site is still there.
Perhaps more importantly than the individual contacts, Breivik and the EDL share the same ideology and worldview. There are numerous references in Breivik's 1,500-page book and internet postings to Fjordman, a Norwegian anti-Muslim blogger and writer. Fjordman is a strong supporter of the EDL and knows Alan Lake, the Christian fundamentalist who helped set up and funded the EDL.
Brievik said in his manifesto that the EDL were "naive fools ... that still believe the democratic system can solve Britain's problems" so clearly the same ideology at work there. Fjordman himself has stated that he never met Breivik and the Alan Lake thing is really stretching credulity as he never met Breivik either, but as he's a Christian and a millionaire he must be a bad guy.
Among those whom Lake believes are worthy of execution are David Cameron, Nick Clegg and the Archbishop of Canterbury.
Blimey I'm Alan Lake. (not really)
Following last week's atrocities, Lake wrote: "Apparently, in a long screed Anders Behring Breivik posted on line, he did this attack to protest against the way that Islam is taking over large parts of Europe. By attacking the leftist politicians that are enabling this, the chickens have actually come home to roost – altho I'm sure it won't be depicted that way."
Well it certainly wasn't by Nick Lowles and no the EDL have no plans to massacre anyone as the tagline on their site states "If you, like us, are fed up and sick to the back teeth of Islamic Extremism in the UK, then sign up and join the struggle with the English Defence League and start protesting peacefully with us today"
Not exactly what Breivik wanted or most of the left come to that who seek to demonise what they don't understand but instinctively hate.
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You can always rely on the left to shoot themselves in the foot even when they think they are offering sound advice

Indymedia.

DON'T PANIC :: DON'T TALK

Tagged as: advice demo2011 legal londonriots social_struggles solidarity workers_struggles
Neighbourhoods: camden croydon dalston ealing enfield hackney holloway islington london tottenham uk
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If you think that you might be identified from photos or footage from recent events, then here's some advice....
DON'T panic. The photos released are not necessarily evidence. Just because the police have a blurry photo that might be of you doesn't mean they know who you are.
DON'T Hand yourself in. The police often use the psychological pressure of knowing they have your picture to persuade you to “come forward” when they don't know who you are or have any evidence against you.
DON'T assume that because you can identify yourself in a video, a judge will be able to as well. “That isn't me” has got many a person off before.
DO get rid of your clothes. There is no chance of suggesting the person in the video is not you if the clothes they are wearing have been found in your wardrobe. Get rid of ALL clothes you were waring when you were out, incluing YOUR SHOES, your bag and any distinctive jewellery you were wearing at the ttime.
DO keep a low profile for a while. The police will be on the look-out at other demos for people they have put on their “wanted” list.
DO think about changing your appearance. Perhaps now is a good time foa make-over. Get a haircut and colour, grow a beard, wear glasses.
DO keep your house clean. Get rid of spray cans, demo related stuff and dodgy tests/photos on your phone. Don't make life easy for them by having drugs, weapons or anything else illegal in the house.
DO be careful who you speak about this to. Admit your involvement ONLY to people you really trust. Be very careful what you say on the internet.
DO try and contrl the nerves and panic. Waiting for a knock on the door is stressful in the extreme, but you need to find a way to get on with life as normal. Otherwise you'll be serving the sentence before you know it.

This leaflet was being handed out to the rioters in England  by the obnoxious UAF who seem to be under the mistaken impression that the events of the last few days were the harbingers of some sort of socialist revolution and/or protest against government cuts of which they were clearly nothing of the kind. The riots were simply about looting and violence, yes I know the excuse that was used initially, but that hardly excuses what happened in any other area or anything that happened after the initial protest at the police station.
Yes, I know what they are doing isn't precisely illegal, but it does show the mentality of some of those on the left who cannot understand the misery and wrecked lives and businesses these scum have left behind them.
I doubt you'll see this on the BBC any time soon.
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Pandering

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This is what multiculturalism ends up as.
This is what diversity will get you.
This is what happens when you go soft on minorities because of the above.
This is what lowering standards to get minorities into positions of authority (aka tokenism) brings you.
This is what failure to assure excellence in our education system has brought us too.
This is the price we now have to pay for the failure of the political classes, socialists and the MSM to listen to the concerns of the ordinary people of England.
Our cities burn, minorities riot, the followers of a foreign and malignant fascistic political system dressed in the trappings of a religion have been allowed to settle in numbers in some of our cities and demand their own laws. The indigenous population have been derided by politicians as being bigoted to even question it. When they marched in protest they were called Nazi's, scum, vermin, knuckle draggers, right wing and racist, yet it was not they who rioted.
And when the dust settles, the cover up will begin, those who burned our cities and attacked our police and ordinary folk will claim victim status yet again, it's already happening on the BBC as excuse after excuse is trotted out about cuts and police brutality by so called community leaders.The usual soundbite fools like Ken Livingstone are being dragged out too to try and put a political slant on the mindless looting by trying to blame the current government for a mess of the previous governments making.
There have even been attempts by some on the left to draw parallels with violence exhibited at EDL protests in an effort to divert blame or ameliorate the situation, save only the EDL have never burnt buses, set fire to buildings, looted shops, attacked homeowners and robbed them. These were the same people who hunted desperately for any kind of link between Anders Brievik and the EDL even to the extent of inventing a few.
This is what happens when those in power and their accomplices simply don't listen to ordinary people.

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Misleading headlines

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A lot of people when they read the newspapers in the dead tree press and online will simply skim the headlines and only read what they want too. Headline writers know this and will attempt to grab peoples attention by making the headline punchy or relevant to their viewers.
Occasionally though they'll get it wrong or deliberately misleading.

Blackpool Gazette.
Charlene focus of quiet peace vigil
Now this has to do with Charlene Downes who went missing in Blackpool after allegedly being groomed by a paedophile gang and then murdered and her body fed into a mincing machine to be sold as kebabs.
save only that this "peace vigil" had nothing to do with Charlene save in the abstract that the vigil was about opposing those who were calling for justice for Charlene.
ANTI-FASCISM protesters today mounted a “peace vigil” as the English Defence League (EDL) demonstrated close by on Blackpool Promenade.
The different protests were keptmore than a mile apart by police who mounted a huge security operation to ensure public safety.
While the larger EDL rally was held near south pier, the smaller anti-fascism rally gathered on the headland by central pier.
Weyman Bennett, national secretary for Unite Against Fascism (UAF), said: “We’re here because we believe these organisations are exploiting a tragedy to politically profit and we want to make it clear we reject racism and fascism and anyone who tries to divide our society.
“At a time of economic crisis we do not want to see right wing groups attacking people.
There were 8 arrests that day, mostly to do with drunk and disorderly, no-one was attacked, no violence and the march was about justice, not racism (Islam is not a race) nor fascism the EDL aren't fascist nor are they right wing for that matter, the EDL is not a political party, nor is it a political organisation, it classifies itself as a Human Rights Organisation. It has no political ideology at all and campaigns only against Islamification and unfettered immigration. Whilst the cause of, and answer to, Islamification and unfettered immigration is political, so is the cause and answer to high fuel prices and food prices yet the motoring organisations and charities campaigning against those aren’t given left/right wing political labels.
So the UAF were simply there to oppose the EDL, not support Charlene in any way shape or form. In fact I'd take this further and state that the UAF by opposing a protest over Charlene Downes and Islamic paedophile grooming gangs run out of Blackpool's take away shops have  sided with the paedophile networks in the area.

Daily Mail.
At least 60 schoolgirls were groomed for sex by workers at seedy takeaways linked to the murder of a 14-year-old girl.
Children as young as 11 were targeted by mainly Asian staff at fast food outlets in Blackpool. They were offered food, alcohol and cigarettes in return for sexual favours.
An unpublicised police report produced after 14-year-old Charlene Downes vanished in 2003 found the girls, most if not all white, had been victims of the ‘honey pot’ premises. There were claims last night that the report was suppressed for reasons of political correctness.
By opposing the protest this is what the morally bankrupt left wing UAF were standing in support of.
Just when you think socialists and communists can't sink any lower...
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Disproportionate?

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Only a politician of the left could have come up with this sort of thing and I include both Labour and Lib Dems in this category. When police actually enforce the law and do the jobs we expect them too, the net result is some idiot labour politician describing it as disproportionate, and no, I'm not on about the idiocy in Bristol where it clearly was disproportionate.

BBC.
Raids on three suspected London squats ahead of the royal wedding were "disproportionate", a Labour MP says.

They seemed to be "some form of pre-emptive strike" before the ceremony, said John McDonnell, who represents Hayes and Harlington in west London.

Twenty people were arrested in Hackney, Camberwell and Sipson on Thursday.

The Metropolitan Police (Met) said it brought forward the operation because of the royal wedding, but stressed it was not directly related to the event.

This week it indicated it would take pre-emptive action to stop people coming to central London on Friday to cause trouble.
Let's be quite clear here squatting in someone else's property or on someone else's land is illegal, no ifs or buts, if it's not yours then it's a form of theft by denial, dress it up in all the fancy words you like, it's still not yours.The one thing that bothers me is the fact that the only reason the police did this was because of the Royal Wedding rather than just closing a squat down as per the normal course of things.
Quite frankly despite the idiocy of John McDonnell who believes that the police should be nice to criminals this is exactly the sort of thing that the police should be doing week in week out, this is the area where zero tolerance should be being enforced.
This address was in Mr McDonnell's constituency and he said police had handcuffed one person before they "forcibly detained" others.

"I believe this disproportionate use of force is unacceptable, he told the Commons.

"I would urge that a minister comes to this house from the Home Office to explain what is exactly happening today, what are the grounds for that action and also to contact the Metropolitan Police commissioner to explain that many of us feel that this is disproportionate and no way to celebrate this joyous wedding."
Yes, there you have it, a Labour MP telling the world that the police should go easy on criminals because it's a Royal Wedding.
Wonder what he'd be saying if the squat was his house?
Bet it wouldn't be "many of us feel that this is disproportionate" that's for sure.
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Fear of offending

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Multiculturalism, the leftist idiocy pervading government and various state provisions such as health and teaching has caused untold harm, differences do not unite us, by their very definition they can’t, they divide us and allow fears and prejudices to grow like cancers in various communities. After all, how on earth can we feel united or a part of a group of people who are so different to us? Especially when we don't mix and aren't allowed to criticise aspects of those cultures that don't fit in well with our basic freedoms and liberties (though it seems it's perfectly ok for them to criticise and insult us) It just seems that even the basic building blocks of how our society works is failing and set to fail, sometimes by well intentioned people, often enough by those with a driven political agenda who hate the English with a passion (yes Jack Straw I'm looking at you). It now turns out that the fear of offending another culture (Islamism) has endangered us all.

Telegraph
A fear of offending Muslims allowed extremists into Britain before the 2005 London Tube and bus bombings, a former Labour minister with close links to the intelligence services has admitted.

Kim Howells blamed “political correctness” for fostering a situation in which dozens of extremists being sent to fight the West after being indoctrinated in Britain.
The Daily Telegraph has disclosed this week how terrorist recruits from across Africa and the Middle East flocked to London to claim asylum.
According to leaked detainee files from the US detention camp in Guantanamo Bay, obtained by the WikiLeaks website and passed to The Daily Telegraph, at least 35 detainees were sent to fight against the West after being indoctrinated in Britain.
Mr Howells, a former foreign office minister and chairman of the influential Commons intelligence and security committee, blamed “political correctness” which meant that the extremists and their views were not challenged.
He said: “There is a great reluctance to talk about the whole issue. 
“It was political correctness and it lasted really until the bombings of July in 2005 when everyone realised that these people simply didn't subscribe to political correctness.”  
The Daily Telegraph disclosed today that a leaked US diplomatic cable, sent five days after the July 7 bombings, said Britain ignored repeated warnings to stop granting asylum to Islamic extremists wanted in other countries for terrorism offences.
Mr Howells, who stood down as an MP at the last general election, said that even today there was a nervousness among moderate Muslims and mainstream political debate about tackling head on these inflammatory remarks.

He said: “There's still a great reluctance to take on the basic philosophy that these jihadists argue for, which is that infidels should be killed - that it’s not really a murderous and hellish thing to do to set off a bomb and murder innocent people including innocent Muslims..

“Even now there's a huge reluctance in many of these communities to actually condemn the activities of murderous individuals who spread this kind of poison.
And there you have it, a poisonous fruit was allowed to bloom in these islands and was nurtured by the various governments until it exploded killing 52 people on July the 7th. Yet even now though it's anathema to criticise the Muslim and Islamic communities, those who do are often vilified as racists, Islamophobes, fascists, etc. Derided in the press as the "extreme right" thugs and hooligans and yet they've never set off bombs to kill people, yet are at more risk from losing their jobs if identified with a "right wing" organisation or party. Yet those they criticise seem to still have some immunity from prosecution.
The religion of peace in action.
It does seem at times that the socialists who want to bring down western civilisation may have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams, though few seem to have learned from the example of the Iranian socialists massacred after helping in the return of Khomeini. The fanatics we've nurtured under our generous benefits system (we pay them to do nothing other than be fanatics) have even threatened the Royal wedding as a legitimate target for jihad. Yet the Muslim community remains quiet over the whole issue, because no-one is allowed to openly criticise them anymore for fear of offending and those that do offend them such as burning their silly holy book end up with 70 day prison sentences.
Something has to be done soon to remove the cancer of multiculturalism from our shores, something needs to be done to remove the fanatics the system has nurtured in our midst. Yet governments are now paralysed by the human rights act and even end up paying compensation to terrorists, whilst other leftist groups insist there isn't a problem despite the fact that there very obviously is. No, I don't any longer believe that the problem in Islam is just a minority, I believe the problem "is" Islam and is endemic in the Muslim communities who don't deal with their fanatics, because their fanatics control them. Sooner or later though they'll push just too far, they can't seem to help themselves and they'll do something really stupid and we'll deal with them once and for all.
We might regret it or be sorry afterwards (about 50 years afterwards seems to be the average) but we'll still do it.
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Why is this man in the government?

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No, not Ken Clarke (for once) but Vince (famous for calling G Brown Mr Bean) Cable a man who was féted as some sort of economic wizard but for the life of me seems to be some sort of socialist simpleton with no grasp of the effect of socialist policies on ordinary people, in this case uncontrolled immigration.

Telegraph.

The Prime Minister will today claim that uncontrolled immigration has undermined some British communities. Pledging to cut the numbers entering Britain to tens of thousands, rather than hundreds of thousands, Mr Cameron will say that "for too long, immigration has been too high".
Mr Cameron’s speech, his first major address on the issue since the general election, will please many Conservative MPs and voters.
But Mr Cable, a Liberal Democrat, described the speech as “very unwise” and suggested it could fuel extremism over immigration.
“The reference to the tens of thousands of immigrants rather than hundreds of thousands is not part of the coalition agreement, it is Tory party policy only,” Mr Cable told the BBC.
“I do understand there is an election coming but talk of mass immigration risks inflaming the extremism to which he and I are both strongly opposed.”
Thing that strikes me is that if Cameron's speech will inflame extremism, why did we invite extremists into the UK in the first place? Assuming of course we did invite them and they just didn't turn up on their own bat, which under labour was entirely possible. Doubt that Cable has got an answer for that one other than a Neville Chamberlainesque appeasement to totalitarianism, which seems to be what he's aiming for. You don't appease bullies and extremists, they see it as weakness and will just attempt to extort more concessions from you. I know that, I suspect you'll know that, but politicians? I just don't know any more, after all you'll see or hear Cameron's speech today and not that the only immigration he can do anything about is non EU immigration which means anyone getting an EU passport from any after escaping any violent shithole can come here and start their own branch of gangsters r us complete with a full set of benefits and a decent house paid for by us. What Cable doesn't get is the fact that it's our generosity that's fuelling extremism because we pay for extremists to do nothing except sit at home, or meet up to plot extremism. If they had to work hard to feed themselves trust me that will knock the extremism out of anyone.
Cameron can't stop mass immigration, it's no longer under the UK governments remit as it's under EU control, he can only sound off and make as if he can make a difference to get votes during the local elections. Cable claims that he and Cameron oppose extremism, though neither are able to do anything about the extremists in our midst, though I do know that talking about immigration won't inflame them, they're already inflamed and Cable would only have us appease them, it's an old socialist fantasy that being nice to someone will make them nice right back, that only works with civilised people and those who would be inflamed are not civilised otherwise they wouldn't be extremists.
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In an incredible piece of blame shifting, the Guardian has a poll up today asking whether Pastor Terry Jones who burned a Koran is responsible for the deaths of the U.N. civilians in Afghanistan.

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Note: If you answer yes to the question then I really think you need some sort of brain surgery.

Now apart from the emerging evidence that the Afghans rioted then committed atrocities as explained in an interview on BBC Radio 5 Live with an Afghanistan correspondent who stated quite categorically that this attack had little or nothing to do with the burning of the koran 2 weeks ago and everything to do with the recent publication of photographs of US soldiers posing with dead Afghan civilians that they had indiscriminately killed.
Apparently the crowd were angered by this and other instances where innocent civilians were killed and there was little or no condemnation or action taken by the west to bring the perpetrators to justice or to compensate the victims families.
Whilst this does not excuse the actions of the U.S. soldiers, the U.N. people were made up of a Swedish national, while another came from Norway. The other foreign victims are believed to be a Romanian and four Nepalese guards.
The Taliban has denied it carried out the attack.
"The Taliban had nothing to do with this, it was a pure act of responsible Muslims," spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told the Reuters news agency by phone from an undisclosed location.

On the face of it, it would seem that the koran burning is merely a smokescreen started by 'elements' within the media to try and apportion some of the blame to anywhere other than where it belongs.
Regardless, the cowardly slaughter of innocent people on ANY side is not acceptable and cannot be condoned and as Pastor Terry Jones said, this just highlights the very violent nature of Islam.
And no I'm not excusing Jones either, the man is a fundamentalist Christian and very controversial, however it has to be said that the Guardian trying to make it appear as if the obvious response to burning a book is to behead an innocent victim is outrageous, callous and bereft of compassion for the victims. No-one deserves to die over the burning of a book and it's time the Islamic community realised this.
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Lies, damned lies and Socialist Worker stories.

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If you're going to tell a lie, at least get your story straight...

Socialist Worker. UAF.
Two homes in Luton were attacked late last night – their windows smashed and the word EDL painted on the front door – just hours after the English Defence League’s (EDL) racist protest through Luton town centre.
The houses are on the edge of Bury Park – where many Asian people live.
Mr Iqbal lives with his mother, brother and sister in one of the houses. He told Socialist Worker, “It happened at around 11.40pm. I was awake but about to go to sleep. I heard a crash and ran to the front of the house to find a brick had been thrown through a window. When I opened the front door, I saw someone had painted EDL on it.
“I couldn’t sleep – I thought they may come back.”
Mr Iqbal is a Muslim. The other house that was attacked belonged to a neighbour a few doors away – who is a Christian.
There is a crucifix on the front of the house, which the bigots of the EDL seemed to miss. The residents stayed up all night, fearful of further attacks.
Odd looking Muslim house with crucifix

1) The EDL had long since left Luton, nor did they deviate from the march.
2) Mr Iqbal said his house was painted on, yet the paint is on the Christian house with the crucifix, unless Mr Iqbal is a very unusual Muslim.
3) The graffiti does not read EDL, that's either a G or a C or just possibly a very strange S, certainly not an E. (Yes the EDL can spell their name)
4) It seems very fortuitous that a Socialist Worker reporter just happened to be there to interview Mr Iqbal.
5) The Socialist Worker has form for this sort of lie, they had an attack on a Bolton Mosque down to the EDL, when it was a local man who was arrested on suspicion of possessing a bladed article and breaking into a vehicle 500 yards away.

House with broken window and no paint on door

Someone's telling porkies here and it's either Mr Iqbal, the Socialist Worker or both. Either way this is a classic smear and an epic fail. Of course I'm assuming there even is a Mr Iqbal...
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Justifying paedophilia

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There is a problem in the Pakistani Muslim community and it isn't just that they are Muslims. For years now the some of the young men in that community have been preying on and grooming under age girls from outside their community, not just white, but Sikh and Hindu girls as well. Finally the MSM had the courage to break the story and various other minions of the state poked their heads above the parapet to tell us yes they knew about it, but dared not report it further because it might be deemed "racist" if they did. So you'd think the Muslim community as a whole would be keeping their heads down and coming out with various platitudes such as "it's only a minority" and doing their best to use the term "Asian" rather than "Muslim" or "Pakistani" like most of their useful idiots on the left and in the MSM have been doing, though the Muslim talent for public relations and how to get it totally wrong is utterly astounding.
So, into the breach steps Lord Ahmed of Cartexting Rotherham to explain why these scum behaved as they did and it's all due to marrying their cousins (even the ones who weren't married it seems)

Express.
BRITAIN'S first Muslim peer last night attacked arranged first-cousin marriages for contributing to a spate of sex crimes committed by Pakistani men.
Lord Ahmed of Rotherham said the marriages were being used by depraved young men as an excuse to prey on “vulnerable girls”.
His comments follow a succession of court cases where Asian men have been prosecuted for targeting white teenage girls.
The Labour peer, who wants an end to cousin marriages, claimed Asian men target their victims at a young age because they feel there is less chance of getting caught.
He said: “They are married to girls from overseas who they don’t have anything in common with and they have children and a family but they are looking for fun in their sexual activities and seek out vulnerable girls.”
Last month, former Home Secretary Jack Straw provoked fury after claiming some men of Pakistani origin view white girls as “easy meat”.
The Labour MP for Blackburn spoke out after two Asian men who abused girls in Derby were given indeterminate jail terms.
Research suggests about 55 per cent of British Pakistanis marry their first cousins, who are typically from abroad.
Marriages between first cousins is lawful in Britain, but they are generally frowned upon.
So there you go, marrying your cousin turns you into a sex mad paedophile according at least to Lord Ahmed. The truth is rather more brutal of course, these men behaved in a depraved manner because people in authority and in their own communities chose to look the other way. Yes some of the blame must also be laid at the feet of the parents of these children too, though in some instances at least they may not have been aware of what was going on, or even cared. But the vast majority of the blame has to be laid at the feet of these men who deliberately sought to target vulnerable children from other communities because they knew full well what would happen if they did target their own. There is no justification in the world for what they did, nor any excuse and Lord Ahmed would have done well to have simply continued his campaign to end first cousin marriages without trying to excuse or justify these perverts behaviour.
I am sick to death of this stupid blame game played out in the MSM and our political elite over the rape and prostitution of these young girls. I'm sick to death of the avoidance of the discussion of the amount of men queuing up to pay to molest these children, some in their 50's following the example of their sick prophet no doubt, after all if it was good enough for Mohammed... And well past the age where they're over the distress of being forced into marriage if they ever were. I'm sick to death of the term Asian being used to disguise the fact that this is a Pakistani Muslim problem. It's not a Sikh problem, it's not a Hindu problem it most certainly isn't a Chinese problem and they are all Asians and sick to death no doubt about being tarred with a Pakistani Muslim perversion. I'm sick to death of people like Taji Mustafa, media spokesperson of Hizb ut-Tahrir who objects to the claims that Islam had anything to do with the issue as various newspapers had claimed. He said:
"Islam promotes respect for women regardless of their race, religion and ethnicity. In Islam, you are not allowed to drink, take drugs, engage in pre-marital sex or even have a girlfriend. So how can Islam be blamed for these heinous crimes?"
 I suspect the fact that it was Muslims doing this that gives the game away, not Asians but Pakistani Muslims, despite the vast generalisation on the matter of who was actually doing it in the press and amongst politicians as well as the silence of various socialist groups like the SWP and the UAF who would be all over this if it was white guys preying on Muslim girls screaming racist no doubt. Since 1997, 56 people with an average age of 28 have been convicted of offences related to on-street grooming of girls aged 11 to 16. Of these, three were white and the rest Asian, of whom 50 were Muslim, with the majority British Pakistani, with more and more cases coming out of the woodwork. I'm totally sick of the stench of cover up as this seems to have been going on for years, even the fact that at the time the UK's youngest mum was only a mum because she was gang raped by Pakistani taxi drivers back in 2002 and still nothing was done other than for Labour to open the floodgates to even more immigration to rub the rights nose in multiculturalism. Well if this is one of the benefits of multiculturalism then count me out as a fan of it, not that I ever was, watching from the sidelines as all that was good about England was denigrated and contemptuously cast aside by Labour, the left and their pro British anti English mind set, which allowed this outrage to go on unchallenged until it could no longer be brushed under the mat and even then I reckon it would still be hidden and Jack Straw et al saying nothing and pretending the problem doesn't exist had not the Times finally got brave enough to do an article on it. I even remember Nick Griffin of the BNP being vilified  and prosecuted back in 2005 for saying it was going on. Since then the establishments, both legal and political, have ignored the continuing abuse and violence solely for their own benefit and to avoid getting accused of racism themselves. 
I am absolutely horrified by this, authorities across the country knew this was going on for many years yet did NOTHING significant to effect the cessation of these vile acts, but elected instead to hide them under blankets of secrecy! They were culpable in withholding relevant information that would have helped to protect our country's children from abuse at the hands of Muslim paedophile gangs.
What gets me as well, is that as soon as these scum have done their time they'll vanish back into their communities and not be despised like we would despise.
That this could happen in my England is the most damning verdict on the Labour years in power, not the war in Iraq, not the financial waste and irregularities, but the despoliation of young girls by an alien culture encouraged to settle here and aided and abetted by a wall of silence by the authorities.
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Quote of the month

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A very lovely lady from the EDL forum pointed me to this article...

Standpoint.
" I shan't miss some locals' assumptions that, being a white woman, if I was outside after dark, as I occasionally was, usually to walk the few metres between my house and the church, I must be a prostitute eager to give them a blow job"
A brilliant summary from the vicars wife of an inner city parish struggling and losing against a tide of immigration from the middle east. The full article is well worth a read and places in context the real destruction that multiculturalism is putting on the embattled native population of England. It also shows the mind set of those who took it upon themselves to groom young girls from any faith other than their own for sexual purposes because at root they don't see women as equal to men and particularly don't see women of other faiths or beliefs as even being particularly human, simply something to use and abuse.
Yet even now after all the publicity over the cases you still have some out there desperately trying to excuse these vile acts or shift the blame to all. Despite mounting evidence that it is endemic in certain communities.
This is a statement issued by the organisation that ran the 'islamophobia and racism' UAF conference - the conference where the prestigious speakers ripped up the photos of black people in EDL, and attacked the Jew, Pakistani, homo and cameraman who had "stormed" the conference by paying at the door.

Link.
Jack Straw chose to make a damaging and unsubstantiated intervention, whipping up the Islamophobic responses to these cases. In a television interview he claimed both that these crimes are rife in the Muslim community as their cultural background means they do not have a sexual outlet, and – most shockingly – that they target white girls in particular as they are seen as ‘easy meat’.
Unsubstantiated? The guys doing this and others arrested were all from the Pakistani Muslim community, if you want to check out the MPAC forums, you'll find lots of evidence of them trying to shift the blame as well in some instances that they think those poor girls were asking for it.

There's something rotten going on at the heart of England, it's something vile introduced by politicians who allowed unrestricted immigration into our country. It's something evil protected by those who believe that multiculturalism works. It's been ignored by the mainstream media for years, it's caused communities to disintegrate, ghettoism, intolerance, misogyny, homophobia, prostitution and a belief that it is above criticism and presents a silent front to all who investigate its misdemeanour's, seeking only to excuse or shift blame. It's called Islam and I believe it has no place in a civilised country, not until it reforms root and branch and outs those within it who do these despicable acts!
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The fascist left

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On paper it sounds great and a lot of politicians including David Cameron put their names as support, however over the years it has become more and more apparent that Unite Against Fascism and their political master the Socialist Workers Party are a cancer on the body politic and those who wish for freedom and free speech. That's not to say that I oppose those who wish to protest, just not those who would attempt by violent means to silence their opponents. Which is exactly what Unite Against Fascism Freedom are about...

Demotix.
Members of Unite Against Fascism (UAF) waited for British National Party (BNP) leader Nick Griffin to arrive at the Frontline club in Paddington where he was due to hold a Q&A session on the documentary film 'The Battle of Barking'.
He arrived promptly at 1900 hours at which point many people ran towards him shouting 'GET HIM!!'
Mr. Griffin's security detail protected him with one spectacular scuffle in the street. They also used some sort of spray ink, which got one cameraman and one protester in the face.
Numerous police rushed to the scene.



I don't like the BNP myself, but as a legitimate political party they have the right particularly as two of their members are MEP's to meet and discuss things with their constituents.Griffin was speaking to people who wanted to hear him. He broke NO law and the Police should have protected his right to free speech, they didn't. As much as I detest Griffin, his party leadership and what they stand for they have the democratic right to hold view's that the great majority of this country find abhorrent and he has the right to voice his opinion as others have the right to hear them it is called freedom of speech. How can I oppose griffin if I am not allowed to hear what he has to say. This is the true danger of the UAF, they have stopped me hearing what he had to say so this morning I could not comment had I so desired and there was a strong possibility that my comments would not have been favourable. So instead of a blow for democracy the UAF have furthered the cause of fascism and again allowed the BNP to claim victim status as they were able to do on Question Time.
The UAF are also the same group who accuse the EDL of violence, yet actions like this reveal the UAF for what they are, fascist thugs who can't stand any sort of dissent, freedom of speech, freedom of thought or freedom of action.
No wonder so many politicians like them. By allowing this sort of thing to happen, by not arresting, prosecuting and jailing the perpetrators, the message extremist groups get is clear, violence and intimidation gets results.
Why the British government seems hellbent on allowing the spreading of that message far and wide is beyond my ability to comprehend.

It's rumoured (though not proven) that Winston Churchill said "The fascists of the future will call them selves anti fascists."
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The future?

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♫ I believe that children are our future,
Teach them well and let them lead the way* ♪

Unfortunately what some of our children are being taught is not quite what as a society we'd expect. Now I know kids are generally violent little psychopaths not terribly adult in their dealings with each other, but as parents and teachers it's up to us to show them how to deal with those they don't get on with and show respect. It's not an easy job, but sometimes it's made all the harder when religion becomes involved.

FIVE Muslim schoolboys threatened to kill a patriotic classmate for supporting British troops.
The 12-year-old yobs boasted they planned to attack terrified Darius Gill, 13, with knives and knuckle dusters for not supporting Islamic extremists.
They made the threats on ­Facebook after Darius – who has a white mother and Asian father – posted a touching tribute on the same website to troops who have lost their lives defending Britain.
I think we can see where the next generation of poppy burners are coming from.
The gang – along with a white girl also aged 12 – have now been excluded from their school, the ­Sidney Stringer Academy which is in a predominantly Muslim area of Coventry.
One gang member said in a ­Facebook message littered with spelling mistakes: “Fight on ­Monday gonna be heavy knuckle dusters nd knifes hopefully I don’t die.”
Another added: “ill bang him ma slef am a terrorist.” One of the youngsters even posted a picture of himself holding a rifle. Darius’ mother Clare Allington, 42, who lives in Coventry, said: “If I hadn’t read the threats and pulled my son out of school that day he could be dead.
“They might just be school children but they are fanatical and dangerous. The threats have to be taken seriously.
“My son wrote supporting the British troops in Afghanistan and also said he was sad so many soldiers had died.
“It’s appalling and extremely upsetting for Darius.”
The school confirmed that six pupils had been disciplined for the hate campaign and face permanent expulsion pending an investigation.
Now it might just be threats, but facebook apparently was used for it.

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But a gang of pupils at Sidney Stringer Academy in Coventry – a predominantly Muslim area – expressed outrage at Darius’ patriotism.
One message – littered with spelling mistakes – said: ”Fight on Monday gonna be heavy knuckle dusters nd knifes hopefully I don’t die.”
His pal added: ”ill bang him ma slef am a terrorist.”
One of the thugs also posted a chilling picture of himself holding a rifle.
Shockingly, other pupils – who have set up a Muslim Defence League which celebrates British deaths in Afghanistan – also added comments condemning Darius.
They set up a Muslim defence league? A dyslexic one at that?
13 years ago I would have laughed at anyone suggesting that the UK could face a civil war or massive civil unrest by about 2020, now I'm not so sure. 13 years ago I would have laughed at any suggestion of the English working class setting up their own grass roots movement outside the auspices of politics called the EDL to defend against the continuing assault on our culture and values by politicians, activists and a totalitarian ideology wrapped up in religious trappings. I'm not laughing now.
Well we've had New Labour and look around you to see what happens when a political movement decides it would be good to rub the "rights" faces in multiculturalism and diversity by opening the doors of uncontrolled immigration. It might have worked but for one major problem, Islam doesn't do diversity, doesn't do multiculturalism, doesn't play nice with anyone not in Islam.
New Labour may just have consigned the UK's next generation to a terrible civil war in the name of diversity and multiculturalism.

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Mind your own

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Being told what I can and can't do especially if it only concerns me and harms no-one else is almost bound to get my hackles up. This particularly involves what I can wear and naturally what anyone else can wear. This extends to the burka and if anyone wants to wear one, that's up to them, save only in health and safety, situations where your face should be seen as well as security concerns.
So the words of Jacques Myard, a senior ally of President Nicolas Sarkozy who believes Britain should go into wholesale bansturbationism were irritating to say the least, particularly as the French have some problems of their own with race relations.

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BRITAIN is “losing the battle against Islamic extremism” by failing to follow France’s ban on the burkha, it was claimed yesterday.
Re-igniting the row over the controversial Muslim dress, Jacques Myard, a senior ally of President Nicolas Sarkozy, said relaxed British policies “opened the door to terrorism”.
Referring to Britain’s continued tolerance of the burkha, he added: “Allowing women to exclude themselves from society by wearing the full Islamic veil makes radicals extremely comfortable and Britain should realise this.”
Mr Myard made his outspoken comments to British journalists in Qatar, where he was defending his country’s ban on the veil at the prestigious Qatar Foundation Doha Debates, which are being broadcast by the BBC this weekend.
But his words will inflame tensions between the British and French governments as the inquests are held on victims of the 2005 London 7/7 bombings, which the French have blamed on lax policing.
Referring to the atrocity in which 52 innocent people died and 107 were injured, Mr Myard said: “Britain has suffered a number of high-profile failures in its fight against extremism in recent years. These could have been prevented if all signs of extremism were curbed, as they are in France.”
Asked if Britain should introduce a burkha ban, Mr Myard replied: “Of course. It is fundamental to ensuring that extremism is kept in check.
“There’s a good reason why London was nicknamed Londonistan – it was full of Islamic extremists. People should be learning from these mistakes.” 
The burka itself is not the problem, though it's an outward sign of a problem, nor is it religious dress, simply a sign that the woman or her family has issues. It tends to say more about Islamic paranoia than it conceals. The French also have big problems with Islamic extremism, though they tend to hide it a bit better, though car burning and rioting in the Muslim areas has been going on for a number of years now, Clichy-sous-Bois being a prime example.
Banning something rarely works, more often than not it reinforces the idea of discrimination rather than removes it. Forcing someone to wear a burka is wrong, preventing someone from wearing it because they want too is equally as wrong. Though wearing it in banks and classrooms as well as courtrooms has to be controlled, banks especially don't like masked people wandering into their premises.
All this though is a result of "Righteous" meddling where immigrant groups were told they didn't have to abide by our traditions or integrate into our society. They were told they could keep to themselves, this they did and produced an unhealthy society at odds with the mainstream. They don't tend to regard themselves as of this country, rather they think of themselves as Muslims and a heady intolerant mix that is. But that's no reason to tell them what to wear.

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Coded propaganda

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Extreme Islamists have bombed buses and the tubes in London and attempted to drive a petrol bombed car into Glasgow airport, that's one of the reasons that the police and security services keep an eye on them. Animal rights protesters have attacked scientists and labs, even going into the arcane world of body snatching, so they are kept an eye on too, not sure if they've killed anyone yet, but I suspect it will only be a matter of time, we're dealing with a group with a lunatic fringe after all. right wingers.... Well right wingers... well there must be something, damned if I know what it is though after all the police seem to think communities should keep an eye on their groups.

BBC.
The most senior counter-terrorism officer in south-east England has called on communities to help identify people at risk of being radicalised.
Speaking ahead of the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks in America, Det Ch Supt George Turner said Al-Qaeda extremists posed the "greatest threat".
But he said other threats to UK security included animal extremism and "extreme right-wing activity".
However, he said the South East was at no greater risk than other regions.
The counter-terrorism unit headed by Mr Turner is based in West Berkshire and covers the Thames Valley, Hampshire, Surrey, Sussex and Kent police force areas.
Speaking to the BBC in his first broadcast interview, he said: "There are problems in this area as there are in every region and in every community.
"There's been some very high profile terrorist incidents. There's been some very high profile, what we call domestic extremism."
The region covered by the South East unit includes sensitive sites such as Portsmouth Naval Base, Gatwick Airport and the Port of Dover.
Mr Turner said that the regional unit supported the work of county forces such as Sussex at Gatwick.
He added: "Historically there have been some links to the major terrorist, iconic attacks, that have taken place throughout the UK and some of those investigations.
"That was obviously a factor in the unit being set up."
'Violent extreme views'
Mr Turner said working with local communities was another key function in helping to defeat terrorist activity.
He added: "There are specialist officers with particular skills at regional level.
"Then each force has its own specialist working with communities to try to identify vulnerable people and prevent them becoming terrorists.
"It is also about supporting those communities who want to have a voice against those with violent extreme views who perhaps feel intimidated.
"It is communities that defeat terrorism."
 He's probably correct in that it's communities that defeat terrorism, however as the "Righteous" have more or less allowed some communities to tell the rest of us to mind our own when any criticism produces howls of Islamophobe and homophobe that in general communities don't look out for trouble as they're usually the ones who get it in the neck from the state.
However as for extreme right wing activity, well this is just "Righteous" codespeak for any who oppose their views whether they are right wing or not, though to my mind it's usually not. They label groups like the EDL and the BNP as right wing, despite the fact that they obviously aren't, they even label Nazi's as right wing, but a quick check their tells you that's not the case either, statist socialists rather than international socialists would be a more accurate term, but socialists hate the idea that these groups are so close to their collectivist thinking that they have to try and label them away from themselves, hence the terms fascist and right wing. In actuality there's very little difference between a member of the SWP and the BNP one hates anyone different and the other hates, well, anyone different, just the BNP are a bit more honest about hating foreigners and the SWP hate pretty much anyone patriotic. Put either one of those groups in charge of the country and it would be a disaster, save only that the SWP would probably kill more of us, it's what socialists do, kill off the intelligentsia and make a society of slave labourers controlled by an unelected elite. Pretty much like the NWO hope to do via the EU.
So the code "right wing" can be taken as reading "not of us" as in not under state control and generally it's applied to racist groups or groups that they want to label racist like the EDL. These groups tend to be either single issue protest groups or in the case of the BNP racist socialists, after all what else would you call a group who see nationalisation of the countries resources and transport as a means to an end? Certainly not a right wing idea is it? And as for the Islamists, well I'm not exactly enamoured of the title kuffar which as I see it is about as nasty a term as it gets, definitely a case of them and us, yet ignored by our political masters as it's convenient for them to do so.
So in reality, the threat to todays society comes from extremist Islamists, extreme left wingers and the NWO, all statists who would use the power of the state to control us, not the extreme right of which there are no extreme groups at all, simple a conglomeration and ever growing group who simply want to be left alone by the state and who protest at its ever growing encroachment.
There is no extreme right wing activity in the UK, it's all extreme statist activity by those who would wish to enslave us in the name of the state and it's all left wing socialist based.
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The true cost of socialism revealed

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The Office for National Statistics (ONS) today released a study revealing that the public purse after Labour's disastrous rule will be faced with £4.84 trillion of liabilities compared with the current public sector net debt figure of £903bn. This effectively means that labours 13 year regime will end up costing the taxpayers (and by this I mean the real tax payers, not the public sector which I already fund and who simply give some back) into the next generation and beyond. They may just have crippled any hope of an economic recovery for a very long time.


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The Office for National Statistics (ONS) released a study revealing that the public purse could be faced with £4.84 trillion of liabilities compared with the current public sector net debt figure of £903bn.
David Hobbs of the ONS described the public sector balance sheet as an “open-ended concept” as he outlined liabilities that are considered to be “off-balance sheet” or not covered in official debt measures. 
The Government’s stakes in RBS and Lloyds Banking Group could add another £1 trillion to £1.5 trillion, the ONS said, the largest potential liability.
Meanwhile, unfunded public service pension obligations could account for a further £770bn to £1.2 trillion, while unfunded state pension schemes amounted to between £1.17 trillion and £1.35 trillion.
“For transparency, it is important for a broad range of information on public sector liabilities, obligations and contingencies to be made readily available, whether or not included within balance sheets,” Mr Hobbs said.
The report also highlighted a potential £200bn of off-balance sheet obligations from private finance initiative schemes, and £40bn in nuclear decommissioning liabilities.
Hr Hobbs also set out a further £500bn miscellaneous grouping of guarantees and contingent obligations, some of which “are more likely to materialise than others”.
The total in liabilities and obligations came to £3.68 trillion to £4.84 trillion. 
Standard & Poor’s, the ratings agency, earlier this week kept Britain’s debt rating on negative watch, saying it had concerns about the forecasts laid out by George Osborne, the Chancellor. 
There are still people out there who are now blaming the Tories for cancelling school rebuilds, public service unions planning strike action over possible job losses.The man behind the fiasco meanwhile is missing in action, currently writing his memoirs and going to the zoo for a party. He's only turned up at Parliament for 2 days, yet got paid for the 68 days it's been running, no doubt his constituents are pleased about that, though they'd be daft enough to vote for a donkey with a red rosette given the opportunity.
I'm no economic expert, so I don't know how we'll get out of this one, but I suspect if we do it will be horrendous and will be painful and destructive to lives and incomes, particularly the public sector as it's one of the few areas the government can go wholesale on, though I expect taxes will rise in certain areas too. A few good tax cuts on business might work, particularly if we can attract them here to employ people. After all, what they don't pay in rates, the employees pay in income tax as well as spending power. Still if the socialists thought the last budget was bad, watch this space, it's going to get a lot worse before it might get better. Hopefully the coalition will keep rubbing Labours faces in the mess they made, the last thing this country needs is socialism or a Labour government.
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